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Old 07-16-2006, 08:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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One of the biggest blemishes this team had last season was the disappointing play from the backup PG position. Once the postseason rolled around, our starters were obviously tanked, especially Chauncey Billups. Chauncey averaged 36 mpg last season, and I think next season you're going to see that number somewhere in between 32-34 mpg. We brought Flip Murray in, but he is strictly a 2 guard. You're not going to see much play at small forward or point guard from him. What the Pistons are saying is, we're commited to bring Murray and Delfino off the bench at SG and SF respectively, and we need a guy to come in and give us 15 minutes a night at backup point.

As we watch FA fly by, we're watching the Pistons miss out on the top backup PGs available. We missed Bobby Jackson. We missed Speedy Claxton. David Wesley is about to go to Cleveland. The situation we're looking at now is one of a few things happening. We either hope Lindsey Hunter has enough left in the tank to give us 15 productive minutes a game for 82 plus playoffs. The chances of that are slim to none. Hunter was great as a situational player, but disappointing aside from that last season anyways. We can also hope that Will Blalock can blow some people away and make the Pistons rotation, let alone the team. The chances of that happening are none to none but it was worth mentioning. The probability is that we are going to bring Tony Delk back or maybe a Chucky Atkins and accept subpar backup PG play for 15 a game all season long. It's really disheartening to not see more effort in improving this issue after the disappointment last season.

What I am hoping for is that the Pistons will re-evaluate some of their prospects and maybe look for a trade that can bring us a helpful vet. Signing Murray pretty much killed Alex Acker's chances of having a role on this team. He's starting to look like Ricky Paulding part 2. Maybe it's time to start looking at his value on the market and seeing what you can get in return for him. Maybe we should also take a look at Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson, two guys with a little more value than Acker, and consider giving up some potential for a contributor.

By not seeing the Pistons make more of an effort to improve the backup PG position through FA, it leads me to believe they are looking to improve it in other ways, and I hope I'm right.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When they took Murray, they said he can play the point too. But like you said and the way I've seen him play, he's more of an off guard also.

I really don't like Delk. Hunter, I like, but we do need another and I'm hoping that would be Acker.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yea I was watching summer league and I like acker at the 2 so you could rotate acker delfino and murray all at the 2. And rotate acker hunter and murray at the 1 also. I would also start giving maxiell a shot this upcoming season. I'm tired of seeing young talent rot on the bench. Like you said at least if we aren't going to let them develop give them to somebody else who will!!!
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thats what I like the least about the signing of Flip Murray. He might be a good spark off the bench, but he is NOT a PG. We could always make guys like Delfino/Prince/Murray play some minutes at PG, but it definately wouldn't be ideal.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Did you take into account bad management?? Like keeping him in a little too long during blowouts?? Maybe if these things were done, you could protect against fatigue w/o needing to worry about the problem so much.
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Did you take into account bad management?? Like keeping him in a little too long during blowouts?? Maybe if these things were done, you could protect against fatigue w/o needing to worry about the problem so much.
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I dont know what team you're watching but it aint the same team I watch for 82 games a season. We never had overplayed any of our players in blowouts so wtf are you talking about? If its a topic on the pistons just dont reply in it please stick to your Bulls.

Now for our little PG situation we should try hard to get charlotte to take Dale Davis for Brevin Knight and then we resign Kelvin Cato whos younger then Dale and problem solved. We get a pg and we still have a big body on the end of our bench if we happen to need it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DTP @ Jul 16 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]6804[/snapback]</div>
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I dont know what team you're watching but it aint the same team I watch for 82 games a season. We never had overplayed any of our players in blowouts so wtf are you talking about? If its a topic on the pistons just dont reply in it please stick to your Bulls.

Now for our little PG situation we should try hard to get charlotte to take Dale Davis for Brevin Knight and then we resign Kelvin Cato whos younger then Dale and problem solved. We get a pg and we still have a big body on the end of our bench if we happen to need it.
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I agree with DTOP, sure are players played a TON of minutes as far as the game went, but they didnt get over played in blow outs.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ABDENOUR POWER @ Jul 16 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]6778[/snapback]</div>
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We could always make guys like Delfino/Prince/Murray play some minutes at PG, but it definately wouldn't be ideal.
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That's pretty much it, non of our options are ideal. Lindsey Hunter isn't a 15 mpg every night guy anymore. Flip Murray is a 2 guard. Acker isn't an NBA PG, and I'm not even sure he's an NBA SG.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DTP @ Jul 16 2006, 10:04 PM) [snapback]6804[/snapback]</div>
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I dont know what team you're watching but it aint the same team I watch for 82 games a season. We never had overplayed any of our players in blowouts so wtf are you talking about? If its a topic on the pistons just dont reply in it please stick to your Bulls.

Now for our little PG situation we should try hard to get charlotte to take Dale Davis for Brevin Knight and then we resign Kelvin Cato whos younger then Dale and problem solved. We get a pg and we still have a big body on the end of our bench if we happen to need it.
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The thing is Charlotte is smart. It would be stupid for them to give up Knight. First off, felton got hurt last year so if he gets hurt again they don't have anyone to replace him. Secondly, Knight has been second in assist the past two years so they would be giving up a pretty good player just for an old center. Which would be a stupid move.
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